Nine Realms Institute

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Speaking

For therapists, coaches, healers and magical practitioners who live between worlds.

Martin Rothery is available for podcasts, livestreams, YouTube shows, TV, radio and in-depth conversations with serious practitioners and curious mages.

Too deep for Instagram therapy
Too sane for full-woo chaos
Too experienced to believe one technique fixes everything

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Get a feel for how Martin thinks.

A short introduction to Martin, the Nine Realms, and the kind of conversation he brings to any platform.

Martin Rothery — Creator of Sanomentology & The Nine Realms

Martin Rothery

Creator of Sanomentology
Founder, Nine Realms Institute

Meet Martin Rothery

A British therapist. A complete architecture.

Martin Rothery is the creator of the Nine Realms — a deep architecture for changework that brings together clinical reality, psychological reality, mythic reality and magical reality without turning it into circus.

He is the founder of Sanomentology, a healing methodology used by practitioners around the world to work with pain, trauma, identity collapse and non-ordinary experiences.

Martin has spent over four decades resolving his own trauma (he calls himself "client zero"), working with clients, studying magical and mystical traditions, and building a coherent system that can hold everything from simple phobias to full-blown spiritual emergencies.

Today, he trains therapists, coaches, healers and magical practitioners who want more than scripts and protocols — they want a map.

He speaks with clarity, humour and respect for both scepticism and strangeness.

Topics I Can Speak On

Five areas. Endless angles.

These are starting points. Martin tailors topics and approach to your audience and format.

Why "one technique fixes everything" is theatre, not changework

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How one-size-fits-all methods fail real clients
The difference between tools and architecture
Mapping complex clients across different Realms (layers of reality)
Why this matters ethically as well as practically

Therapy & magic — what serious practitioners can learn without losing their licence

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How modern methods quietly stole from voodoo, hoodoo, hermeticism and chaos magic
Why pretending we're not doing "magic" makes the work less safe
Ways to integrate magic, psi and synchronicity into changework without going full-woo
Case examples of "impossible" outcomes and how to think about them

The Nine Realms — a map for people who live between trauma, therapy and magic

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The 9-Realm architecture in plain language
Why trauma, identity, emotion and magic all need different rooms in the same building
How practitioners can stop guessing and start locating the Realm they're in
Stories from the Healing, Transformational and Potentiality Realms

Identity, archetypes & the 13th pattern — the God Seed

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Why archetypal work exploded — and often got watered down — online
The limits of the classic 12-archetype grids
What Martin calls the God Seed — the 13th archetype that doesn't fit the boxes
How this changes identity work in practice

Practitioners as instruments — structure, shadow and scope

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Why two practitioners can use the same technique with very different outcomes
How practitioner trauma, identity and shadow shape sessions
Ethics, scope and responsibility when you work with deep or "weird" phenomena
What the Practitioner Realm asks of us

Sample Interview Questions

Ten questions to get you started.

Suggestions only — Martin is happy to tailor topics and questions for your audience.

01For listeners who've never heard of you before — what are the Nine Realms, in simple terms?

02You talk a lot about "architecture" instead of "techniques." What do you mean by that, and why does it matter?

03Why do you think the self-help and therapy world became so obsessed with single techniques and protocols? What's the danger in that?

04You openly connect therapy and magic. How did you get there, and what do you say to people who are sceptical or nervous about that language?

05Can you share a story where a conventional approach failed, but working across multiple Realms made the difference?

06You mention a 13th archetype — the God Seed. What is that, and how does it show up in real clients?

07What are some of the most common ways practitioners unintentionally limit or sabotage their own work?

08If someone listening is a therapist or coach who feels they don't fit in either clinical or spiritual boxes, how can they start to explore this architecture without blowing up their current practice?

09How do you think we should be talking about "miracles" or "impossible" results in a way that's honest and responsible?

10Where can people find out more, and what's a good first step for listeners who resonate with this?

Selected Past Interviews & Talks

In his own words. On different stages.

An Introduction to the Nine Realms

Martin Rothery — Full architecture talk

Interview with New York's 30 Frames a Second

YouTube — Full interview

Open Loops Podcast

Full episode — available on Spotify

Interview with Tee Liburd

Sanomentology Practitioner & Podcast Host

Tech & Logistics

Ready to record. No friction.

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Good quality microphone and headphones suitable for podcast and online radio.

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Records from a quiet, dedicated space with a stable internet connection.

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Comfortable with Zoom, StreamYard and other common platforms. Flexible on format.

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Based in the UK but regularly works with US time zones. A window can usually be found on both sides of the Atlantic.

Request an Interview

Let's talk about your show.

To enquire about having Martin on your podcast, livestream, TV show, radio show or event, please include the details below.

Media & Speaking Enquiry

Martin reads every request and responds personally.

Please include in your message:

Your show name and a link
Your audience — who they are, roughly where they're based
The topic or angle you're most interested in
A few possible dates and times, including your time zone

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